How corrupt Baltimore cops used the badge to steal
2018-02-13 00:00:00


JOHN YANG: The other story in Baltimore isthe federal court conviction of two city police(1)
翰洋:在巴尔的摩的另外一个故事是两市警方的联邦法院定罪

officers, Detectives Daniel Hersl and MarcusTaylor, in a startling corruption scandal.(2)
官员,侦探丹尼尔Hersl和马库斯·泰勒,在一个令人震惊的腐败丑闻。

Six other officers have already pleaded guilty.(3)
六名,其他人员已经认罪。

For the details, we're joined by Jayne Miller,the lead investigative reporter for WBAL TV(4)
详细情况,我们通过杰恩·米勒牵头的调查记者WBAL电视加入

in Baltimore.(5)
在巴尔的摩。

She's covered this story from the beginning.(6)
她涵盖了从一开始这个故事。

Jayne, thanks so much for joining us.(7)
杰恩,非常感谢接受我们的访谈。

The charges in the court yesterday were racketeering,racketeering conspiracy and robbery.(8)
昨天在法庭的指控是诈骗,敲诈勒索阴谋和抢劫。

But that really doesn't do -- tell -- giveus the full breadth of what these guys did.(9)
但是,这真的没有做 - 告诉我们 - 给我们的这些家伙做了充分的广度。

What did they do?(10)
他们做了什么?

JAYNE MILLER, WBAL TV: Well, first of all,they were members of a very elite unit in(11)
JAYNE MILLER,WBAL电视:嗯,首先,他们是一个非常优秀成员单位在

the Baltimore Police Department which wascalled the Gun Trace Task Force, GTTF, as(12)
巴尔的摩警察局这是所谓的枪跟踪专责小组,GTTF,如

it was known.(13)
这是众所周知的。

They were tasked with the responsibility ofgetting illegal guns off the street.(14)
他们以获得非法枪支离开街道的负责人的任务。

And, as such, testimony showed in the case,they were given quite a bit of latitude and(15)
而且,正因为如此,见证的情况下表现出,他们被赋予相当多的纬度和

leeway to operate citywide.(16)
余地操作全市。

The testimony in this case exposed a realunderbelly of that kind of policing, with(17)
在这种情况下,见证暴露那种警务工作的一个真正的软肋,与

the tactics they used to chase people, totarget people.(18)
战术他们曾经追逐的人,要定位。

The bottom line of the way they operated illegallyin this case was that they would target particularly(19)
的方式底线他们非法操作,在这种情况下是,他们将特别瞄准

drug dealers, because they knew drug dealershad cash.(20)
毒贩,因为他们知道毒贩拥有的现金。

They would use their police power to get searchwarrants, police power to enter properties,(21)
他们会用自己的警察权力得到搜查证,警察权力进入性,

police power to arrest people, detain people,get their address, go to their houses.(22)
警察权力抓人,拘留的人,让他们的地址,去他们的房子。

But they'd target these folks, and then theywould steal from them.(23)
但他们会瞄准这些人,然后他们会窃取他们。

They wouldn't steal everything.(24)
他们不会盗取一切。

I think that was a very important part ofthis scheme.(25)
我认为这是该计划的一个重要组成部分。

They would -- for example, in one of the casesin which one of the two yesterday was convicted(26)
他们将 - 例如,在一个案件中,两昨天一个被定罪

on the robbery count involved a drug dealerwho had said -- he testified he had in his(27)
在抢劫数涉及到毒贩谁说过 - 他作证他有他

house $300,000 and 10 kilos of drugs.(28)
房子$ 300,000的毒品10公斤。

The police targeted him.(29)
警方针对他。

They went into his house.(30)
他们走进他的家。

Members of the Gun Trace Task Force, theyallegedly took $200,000, submitted $100,000(31)
枪跟踪工作组的成员,据称他们采取了$ 200,000,提交了$ 100,000个

as evidence to make it all look legit, andsubmitted 8.5 kilos of the drugs.(32)
作为证据,以使这一切看起来合法的,并提交了毒品8.5公斤。

So, what's missing?(33)
因此,缺少了什么?

Two hundred thousand dollars and a kilo-and-a-halfof drugs.(34)
二十万美元和药物千和半。

That was the basic M.O. of this scheme, wasto use their power under the badge.(35)
这是该方案的基本MO,是使用徽章下他们的权力。

They didn't -- they weren't uniformed, butthey did have police vests on most of the(36)
他们没有 - 他们不穿制服,但他们对大多数的警察背心

time, but to use their power to target peoplefor the purpose of enriching themselves.(37)
时间,而是利用手中的权力为目标的人的不断充实自己的目的。

JOHN YANG: And they were doing this whilethe Justice Department was investigating the(38)
翰洋:他们正在做这一点的同时,司法部正在调查

Baltimore City police.(39)
巴尔的摩市警方。

JAYNE MILLER: Right under the nose.(40)
JAYNE MILLER:对鼻子底下。

That is correct.(41)
那是对的。

Right.(42)
对。

JOHN YANG: With this amount of the sort ofbrazen corruption now exposed, what's been(43)
翰洋:有了这个量排序,现在暴露的腐败无耻的,是什么一直

the reaction from the mayor and the policedepartment?(44)
从市长和警察部门的反应是什么?

JAYNE MILLER: Well, we just have a new policecommissioner that took office just a couple(45)
JAYNE MILLER:好吧,我们只是有一个新的警察局长说刚上任一对夫妇

of weeks ago, or he's designated to be thenext police commissioner.(46)
星期前,或他指定为下一个警察局长。

And on Friday, he announced a series of changes,a new corruption unit to look at some of the(47)
上周五,他宣布了一系列的变化,一种新的腐败单元来看看一些

names that have been dropped in testimonyin the case that weren't charged in the case.(48)
已在在没有的情况下充电的情况下作证被丢弃的名字。

He's looking at an overtime that -- the overtimefraud in this case was staggering, in the(49)
他看着加班是 - 在这种情况下,加班欺诈是惊人的,在

ease with which these officers and detectiveswere able to steal overtime, able to cheat,(50)
缓和与这些警官和侦探们能够窃取加班,能骗,

without supervision, without anybody blowingthe whistle on them.(51)
没有监督,没有任何人吹他们的哨子。

So, he's forming a new overtime abuse unit.(52)
于是,他形成了新的加班滥用单元。

But I think, beyond those specific changes,the real debate that's going on now in Baltimore(53)
但我认为,超出具体的变化,真正的辩论,现在发生的事情在巴尔的摩

is whether there needs to be an entirely differentstructure of the Baltimore Police Department.(54)
是,是否需要有巴尔的摩警察局的一个完全不同的结构。

I'm just doing a story today, for example,with a key city Council Member in Baltimore(55)
我只是做了今天的故事,例如,用钥匙市议会成员在巴尔的摩

that is looking at Los Angeles, the modelin Los Angeles, where the police department(56)
这是看洛杉矶,在洛杉矶的模型,其中警察部门

is under the control of a board of commissioners,which also has the inspector general, so that(57)
是委员的基板,其还具有总监的控制下,使

police don't investigate themselves.(58)
警察不查自己。

And that's the kind of debate that we're seeingnow in Baltimore, and I think will become(59)
而这正是那种我们在巴尔的摩现在看到的辩论,我认为将成为

stronger as we go forward.(60)
更强,在我们前进。

We still have a ways to go in this case, accordingto the FBI.(61)
我们仍然有办法在这种情况下去,根据FBI。

In her testimony last week before the jury'sverdict in this case, she made it clear that(62)
上周她的证词在这种情况下,陪审团的裁决之前,她明确表示,

the investigation is ongoing.(63)
调查正在进行。

Last night, the acting U.S. attorney afterthe guilty verdicts in the Hersl and Taylor(64)
昨晚,在Hersl和泰勒有罪判决后,代理美国律师

case -- cases said that -- he said, we'renot going to tell you what we're doing, but(65)
案例 - 案例说 - 他说,我们不会告诉你我们正在做的事情,但

indicated as well that they're continuingto follow leads in this case.(66)
表示为好,他们会继续遵循在这种情况下引线。

So, we may still have some ground to coverin this particular case.(67)
因此,我们仍然可能有一些地面在这种特殊情况下支付。

JOHN YANG: And this has tainted now some prosecutions.(68)
翰洋:这已经沾染了一些起诉。

Some cases that were being prosecuted arebeing thrown out.(69)
那名被起诉某些情况下被抛出。

You have also got the...(70)
您也已经得到了...

JAYNE MILLER: Both city -- both local andfederal.(71)
JAYNE MILLER:两个城市 - 包括地方和联邦。

There's a federal case, drug case, where twomen were just released from prison -- well,(72)
还有的地方两名男子刚出狱的一个联邦的情况下,药物的情况下, - 好,

one was still in prison, one was out -- buttheir sentences vacated because they were(73)
一个仍然在监狱里,一个在外面 - 但空出了他们的句子,因为他们是

prosecuted federally all the way back in 2010in a case where we now know the drugs were(74)
在的情况下,起诉联邦政府所有的方式早在2010年,我们现在知道的药物是

planted.(75)
种植。

So, yes, it's mostly state cases that havebeen tainted by the actions of these officers,(76)
所以,是的,这是已被污染的这些官员的行为大多状态的情况下,

but there are also federal cases that arebeing reviewed as well.(77)
但也有正在审查以及联邦案件。

JOHN YANG: You have got the police departmenttrying to repair the damage from the Freddie(78)
翰洋:你已经得到了公安部门试图修复与房地美的损失

Gray case a couple of years ago back.(79)
灰色案例几年前回来。

They're fighting -- last year, they had thehighest per capita murder rate in the city's(80)
他们在战斗 - 去年,他们在城市的人均最高谋杀率

history.(81)
历史。

What's this now done to the relationship betweenthe police and the community?(82)
这是什么现在做警察与社区之间的关系?

JAYNE MILLER: Well, first of all, I want toadd that we had a homicide in Baltimore involved(83)
JAYNE MILLER:好吧,首先,我想补充一点,我们在巴尔的摩的一宗凶杀案有关

this afternoon, and it was the first one in10 days.(84)
今天下午,这是在10天内的第一个。

And in a city like Baltimore that has a veryhigh rate of gun violence, that has been a(85)
而在这样的城市巴尔的摩拥有枪支暴力率非常高,这一直是

welcome relief.(86)
欢迎救济。

Everybody hopes it's not an anomaly.(87)
每个人都希望它不是一个异常。

There's a lot of work that is going on reallycitywide with different agencies and communities,(88)
还有大量的工作是怎么回事真的不同机构和社区全市,

et cetera, to really try to bring down therate of violence.(89)
等等,真的尽力减低暴率。

I think the best part of the federal caseis that it brings into the open and gives(90)
我认为联邦案件的最好的部分是它带来到开放,并给出

legitimacy to the complaints of many peoplein communities in Baltimore that have long(91)
合法性很多人的社区在巴尔的摩具有长投诉

argued and complained that police -- aboutpolice tactics, about police stealing from(92)
争论和抱怨警察 - 约警务战术,约警察窃取

them, about planting drugs.(93)
他们,大约种植毒品。

This federal case put all in one place allegationsfrom drug dealers and from convicted police(94)
这个联邦的情况下把所有的药商一个地方的指控和被定罪的警察

officers.(95)
长官。

That's the most important part of this caseis that four of the convicted gun squad members(96)
这是这种情况的最重要的部分是四个被定罪枪队成员

testified for the government, which is whereall these revelations came from of the activities(97)
作证对于政府来说,这是所有这些启示从活动来到

of this unit.(98)
本机的。

So, in the end, you know, transparency isa good thing.(99)
所以,到最后,你知道的,透明度是一件好事。

And at least this case has brought legitimacyand into the public eye really the underbelly(100)
至少这种情况下带来的合法性和进入公众视线真正的软肋

of policing.(101)
的监管。

JOHN YANG: Jayne Miller of WBAL TV in Baltimore,thanks so much for joining us.(102)
翰洋:WBAL电视在巴尔的摩的杰恩·米勒,非常感谢接受我们的访谈。

JAYNE MILLER: Thank you, John.(103)
JAYNE MILLER:谢谢你,约翰。


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